AETU General and flying rules 2024
This Union to be known as the All England Tippler Union the aim of the Union is to bring together tippler clubs and individual tippler fanciers with the purpose of promoting through competition and exhibition all aspects of the flying tippler sport.
The Union will be overseen by a five man council who will be there to resolve any issue on behalf of the Union with the Chairman having the casting vote on all matters arising throughout their term of office which shall run from one AGM to the AGM the following year any objections to be sent in writing for the councils consideration
2024 council
Chairman Fiast Khan C.B.T.C.
President to be selected by council
Other council members
Neil Marriner Netherton T.C
Asif Iqbal Prince T.C. Manchester
J.Faisal Oldham T.C
Mufti Mohsin Central Brum T.C
The Union will also have an elected Secretary who will be responsible for the day to day running Finances etc of the Union and who will be there to offer advice to the council if needed
Secretary 2024
D.Warrener
27 Sunnybrow
Silksworth
Sunderland
Tyne & Wear
SR3 1DG
Phone 0191 6805126
Membership
A.Firstly it should be pointed out this Union is concerned with tipplers only no member is allowed to ring or compete in any AETU competition or events with any bird other than a flying tippler anyone found doing so will face expulsion from the Union
B.Any person residing in the U.K. and over 15 years old is welcome to apply for membership in this Union application can be made to the Secretary and will be decided on by the council membership will be accepted at any time during the year no rings will be issued before January of the same year
C.The Council will arrange an AGM to be held the second Saturday in October each year venue to be arranged where the council and secretary for the following year will be elected and any other matters can be raised
D.Following the AGM the newly elected council will hold a finance meeting to set fees for the following year
E.No one will be accepted for membership while serving a current ban from another tippler club or union or leaving the same in arrears
F.Anyone with any proposals or wishing to apply for a council or the Secretary position can contact the Secretary before September of the same year to be voted on at the AGM these matters will only be voted on if the person proposing or applying is present at the AGM to answer any queries arising from their proposals
2024 Membership Fees & ring prices
Membership including 8 fly entries 3 Newsletters and postage £20:00
Ring £2:00 per 10 rings to be sold in batches of 10 any additional ring orders after the original order will incur a postage charge of £2:00
All fees and ring monies to be paid before rings are issued
The Union to organise eight competitions each year both official (with referee) and honour (competitor acts as his own referee) competitions to be held on the Sunday at given dates but any member who for any reason cannot fly on the Sunday can compete on the Saturday of the same weekend but must notify the Secretary by post or phone 1 week in advance of the competition. Club Secretaries are responsible for putting in entries for their members private members are responsible for their own entries this also applies to completed timesheets which must be received in the post by the AETU Secretary no later than 6 days following the competition date Or alternatively they can be emailed to daveywarrener@aol.com
Diplomas to be awarded for the first 3 places for members using the honour system framed diplomas or trophies to be awarded for the first 3 places for members using the official system along with awards for overall aggregate and top novice a novice being defined as someone who has not flown 10 hours or more in any organised competition the Union have the right to send an inspector to check on anyone competing in any competition
AETU Flying Rules 2024
Anyone before acting as a referee in any AETU competition cannot be living at the same address as the competitor and must be over 15 years old must have read and fully understand the following rules and be in a position to referee the kit at all times during any competition
- Name and address of competitor and start referee ring numbers of competing birds along with competition details to be filled in on timesheet prior to release of the kit
2. All ring numbers of competing birds to be checked against the timesheet directly the birds enter the loft competitors may fly 3 to 15 birds longest kit on the wing to win provided no objections are made against them all fields on the timesheet must be filled in correctly any alterations must be signed or initialled by the referee
2b All rings of competing birds must have been issued to or transferred to the competitor this can be done through club secretaries or in the case of private members the AETU secretary.
3. All kits must be on the wing at the time stated (in the case of honour system competitors kits must be on the wing no later than 7am and release time entered on the timesheet) referees must be in a position to see kits on the wing at liberation time
4. Any competing birds dropping over 75 yards from the competitors loft will be disqualified birds dropping within this boundary the competitor will be allowed to fetch them off the place they have dropped
5. Any birds raking out of sight during the first hour the remaining part of the first two hours shall be allowed for sighting but if they return during the second hour then only one hour is allowed for sighting for the remainder of the competition should the competitor decide to drop his birds at any time he must inform the referee time will be taken as soon as any sign is given to induce the birds to drop any birds dropping in bounds in daylight the competitors must stay within the rules and have the birds in within one hour after official dark time
6. Kits flying without fault into official dark and still kitted one hour is allowed to have the birds in from time being taken any kit not flying together meaning all the birds cannot be seen in one view are termed split and must be in within one hour of the split being called
7. All referees to set their time to BBC time
8. If any referee has just reason to disqualify the kit he is watching he must acquaint the competitor before leaving if he takes the time of any kit he is watching he must remain until the birds are in and he has checked the ring numbers of the kit against the timesheet
9. No alterations to be made to the outside of the loft area within one week prior to competition no activities to be conducted around the loft area during competition which may cause the birds to be frightened allowing for birds dropped in bounds to be got back on the wing
10. If a pigeon settles on or around a competitors loft during a competition he will be allowed to get it in only in the presence of his referee and without droppers being shown
11. Any competitor insulting any referee or inspector whilst he is executing his duties will be disqualified
12 Any member reported for being in breach of the rules will be suspended from all AETU competitions until the matter has been resolved by the council
13 Any circumstances neither arising nor covered in the rules the council shall have power to make a decision on
Competition dates 2024 will be published within members copies of the rules
Competition results will be posted in the Newsletters
Results 2018
Old bird
April 1st liberation 6:15am official dark8:50pm
1st 11:29 M.Wasim.private member
2nd 5:35 R.Sandhu. Central Brum T.C.
3 sheets not returned
April 22nd liberation 5:30am official dark 928pm
1st 14:22 G.Carr. Silksworth T.C.
2nd 10:16 R.Sandhu Central Brum T.C.
Disqualified
Karnail Singh CBTC 15:00 missed kit
Gurinder Singh private member 11:30 bird missing in heavy rain
M.Wasim private member 8:41 bird washed down in heavy rain
4 sheets not returned
May 20th liberation 5:30am official dark 10:17pm
1st 15:04 Karnail Singh Central BrumTC
2nd 14:05 G.Carr Silksworth T.C.
Honour system
1st 14:30 D.Pearce Silksworth T.C.
Disqualified
M.Wasim private member 9:22 hawk attack bird dropped away
A.Baird Silksworth TC 9:00 bird dropped away
Gurinder Singh birds not released
5 timesheets not returned
June 17th liberation 4:00am official dark 10:48pm
1st 17:35 G.Carr Silksworth TC
2nd 17:27 M.Wasim private member
3rd 16:11 Karnail Singh Central Brum TC
Honour system
1st 18:30 D.Pearce Silksworth TC
5 timesheets not returned
Young Bird
July 1st liberation 4:00am official dark 10:48pm
1st 13:44 D.Warrener Silksworth TC
2nd 12:38 M.Wasim private member
3rd 12:06 Faisal Ghafoor Central Brum TC
Disqualified G.Carr Silksworth TC birds over the hour
Honour system
1st 16:28 R.Hookens private member
2nd 9:55 K.McDowell private member
3rd 8:35 J.Firth Yorkshire TC
Disqualified
D.Pearce Silksworth TC birds over the hour
T.Dilks Old Hall birds not liberated (hit by peregrine last training fly)
5 timesheets not returned
July 15th liberation 5:00am official dark 10:37pm
1st 7:04 M.Wasim private member
2nd 5:00 G.Carr Silksworth TC
Disqualified
Faisal Ghafoor Central Brum TC 15:50 failed to drop birds
D.Warrener Silksworth TC 15:07 bird over the hour
Gurinder Singh Central Brum TC 9:00 bird missing (falcon attack)
Honour system
1st 14:32 B.Owston private member
2nd 12:56 R.Hookens private member
3rd 4:25 J.Firth Yorkshire TC
Disqualified D.Pearce Silksworth TC 8:00 bird out of bounds
August 5th liberation 5:15am official dark 10:06pm
1st 13:32 D.Pearce Silksworth TC
2nd 4:36 D.Warrener Silksworth TC
Honour system
1st 16:43 R.Hookens private member
2nd 3:25 J.Firth private member
Disqualified
B.Owston private member 16:05 missed kit
K.McDowell private member bird missing
5 timesheets not returned
19th August liberation 6:00am official dark 9:37pm
1st 11:52 M.Wasim private member
Disqualified
G.Watson Silksworth TC 14:00 missed birds in dark
G.Carr Silksworth TC unable to identify kit
D.Warrener Silksworth TC unable to identify bird
D.Pearce Silksworth TC overslept
R.Hookens private member birds dropped away in rain
6 timesheets not returned
Competition results 2017
Old bird
April 2nd liberation 6:15am official dark 8:52pm
1st 07:43 R.Oakley Wrens Nest T.C.
2nd 05:47 Israr. Arif Central Brum T.C.
Disqualified M.Wasim private member 12:42 incorrect timesheet / Z.Ahmed CBTC 00:43 Hawk attack / D.Warrener Silksworth T.C 03:35 peregrine put bird down out of bounds / G.Carr Siksworth T.C 12:57 2 birds over the hour / Z.Mubarak CBTC 01:28 bird taken Hawk / F.Khan CBTC 06:59 peregrine attack 3 sheets not returned
April 23rd liberation 5:30am official dark 9:30pm
1st 8:03 R.OakleyWrens Nest T.C.
2nd 7:41 Israr Arif Central Brum T.C.
1st 11:44 HS L.Briggs private member
Disqualified 3:15 D.Warrener Silksworth T.C. peregrine attack / 3:15 G.Carr Silksworth T.C. peregrine attack / 14:32M.Wasim private member incorrect timesheet / 4 sheets not returned
May 21st liberation 4:30am official dark 10:18pm
1st 16:20 G.Carr Silksworth T.C
2nd 16:00 Israr Arif Central Brum T.C
3rd 12:33 M.Wasim private member
4th 8:13 E.Oakley Wrens Nest T.C
D/Q D.Warrener Silksworth T.C bird dropped away
1st HS 17:00 D.Pearce Silksworth
2nd HS 16:30 L.Briggs private member
3 timesheets not returned
June 18th liberation 4:00am official dark 10:47pm
1st 17:04 Israr. Arif Central BrumT.C.
2nd 13:51 M.Wasim private member
3rd 11:05 G.Carr Silksworth T.C.
4th 6:18 E.Oakley Wrens Nest T.C.
5th 3:58 D.Warrener Silksworth T.C.
Disqualified D.Pearce Silksworth T.C. kit over the hour
4 time sheets not returned
Young bird
July 2nd liberation 4:30am official dark 10:46pm
1st 5:06 J.Brook silksworth
2nd 4:20 E.Oakley Wrens Nest 7 birds
D/Q D.Warrener Silksworth
1st HS 16:01 R.Hookens private member
2 time sheets not returned
July16th liberation 5:00am official dark 10:36pm
1st 8:34 Fiasat Khan Central Brum T.C.
2nd 7:32 J.Brooks Silksworth
3rd 3:38 E.Oakley Wrens Nest T.C.
1st HS 17:06 R.Hookens private member
D/Q L.Boucker Wrens Nest / D.Warrener Silksworth / G.Carr Silksworth / D.Pearce Silksworth 3 time sheets not returned
August 6th liberation 5:15am official dark 10:04pm
1st 11:52 D.Warrener Silksworth T.C.
2nd 11:23 M.Wasim private member
3rd 11:19 N.Mariner Netherton T.C.
4th 10:23 Gurinder Singh private member
5th 6:45 Fiasat Khan Central Brum T.C.
D/Q R.Hookens private member birds pitched away / L.Briggs private member bird washed down in rain / Raja.. Nasir Ali. private member peregrine attack 4 timesheets not returned
August 20th liberation 6:00am official dark 9:34 pm
1st 13:02 G.Carr Silksworth T.C.
2nd 12:17 M.Wasim private member
1st HS 13:20 L.Briggs private member
2nd HS 13:11 R.Hookens private member
Disqualified D.Pearce Silksworth T.C. peregrine took bird / D.Warrener Silksworth T.C. bird hit tree on liberation / Gurinder Singh private member hawk attack / Israr Arif Central Brum kit dropped away 4 timesheets not returned
No entries for either old or young bird knockout these were a trial in 2017 will be discontinued in 2018
Top novice E.Oakley Wrens Nest T.C.
Aggregate winner M.Wasim private member
Results 2016
Old bird
3.4 2016 1st place D.Warrener Silksworth 13:32 5 birds official 2nd place M.Wasim private member 12:29 3 birds official D/Q Fiasat Khan Central Brum peregrine attack official D/Q B.Hurst private member peregrine attack honour D/Q W.Oakley Wrens Nest birds not released honour.
24.4.20116 1st place D.Warrener Silksworth 14:52 5 birds official 2nd place M.Wasim private member 14:04 3 birds official 3rd place R.Sandhu Central Brum 10:31 3 birds official dq F.Khan central Brum 5:20 4 birds bird dropped away officia.l Honour system 1st D.pearce Silksworth 13:27 5 birds. B.Hurst private member birds not released
21.5.2016 1st place G.Carr Silksworth 16:25 3 birds official 2nd place 15:22 M.Wasim private member 4 birds official D/Q 15:02 D.Warrener 5 birds bird dropped away official D/Q 8:10 3 birds D.Pearce Silksworth bird dropped honour D/Q Fiasat Khan Central Brum bird touched roof on liberation official not liberated Rudra Sandhu Central Brum not liberated B.Hurst private member
19.6.2016 D/Q G.Carr Silksworth 16:15 bird over the hour official D/Q D.Warrener Silksworth 17:30 missed 2 birds official Fiasat Khan Central Brum birds not released 1st place D.Pearce Silksworth 12:58 4 birds honour B.Hurst PM birds not released
Young bird
3.7.2016 1st place L.Boucker PM 4:50 3 birds official D/Q 16:30 G.Carr Silksworth bird over the hour peregrine attack official D/Q 16:40 D.Warrener Silksworth bird over the hour peregrine attack official D/Q Fiasat Khan Central Brum referee faild to attend official B.Hurst PM 11:10 7 birds honour 2 timesheets not returned.
17.7.2016 1st place D.Warrener. Silksworth 13:20 4 birds official 2nd place L.Boucker PM 5:52 3 birds official W.Oakley Wrens Nest 3:48 3 birds honour J.Brooks Silksworth 15:15 3 birds honour 5 timesheets not returned.
7.8.2016 1st place D.Warrener Silksworth 15:17. 3 birds official 2nd place G.Carr Silksworth 15:05. 3 birds official 3rd place Sati Gill CBTC 14:32. 5 birds official 4th place E.Oakley Wrens Nest 6:50 4 birds official 8 timesheets not returned
21.8.2016 1st place D.Warrener.Silksworth 13:13 5 birds official D.Pearce Silksworth 10:37 3 birds honour W.Oakley Wrens Nest 5:19 3 birds honour D/Q J.Firth Yorkshire 3 birds 5:00 kit dropped out of bounds 7 timesheets not returned
Novice Cup winner. Sati Gill Central Brum T.C. 14 hours 32 minutes
Overall Aggregate. D.Warrener Silksworth T.C. 70 hours 14 minutes